Monday 5th November 2018
06:00-08:30 Britain Morning Live
08:30-09:25 Lorraine
09:25-10:30 The Jeremy Donald Show
10:30-12:30 This Morning
Presented by Philip Schofield and Holly Willoughby
12:30-13:30 Loose Ladies
13:30-14:00 TV3 Lunchtime News and Weather
14:00-15:00 Judge Rilnder
15:00-16:00 brand new series.6/80.Tenable.(Series 2).Warwick Davis hosts the quiz show based on top ten lists. A bridal party made up of five friends attempt to walk away with a big cash prize.
16:00-17:00 Lucky Stars
17:00-18:00 The Question Chase
18:00-18:30 Regional News and Weather
18:30-19:00 TV3 Evening News and Weather
19:00-19:30 The Dingles
19:30-20:00 Manchester Street
20:00-20:30 brand new series.2/4.The Harbour.(Series 1).Tenby, the jewel in Pembrokeshire's crown. At its heart, the harbour – one of the most photographed views in Wales. Filmed through the four seasons - this is the story of the men and women of the harbour - a way of life in tune with the sea, the seasons and the tourists.
Episode 2
The Harbour community has survived another winter and it's the day of the big lift, when the boats go back into the water, signalling the start of another holiday season.
The crowds arrive for the first big holiday weekend of the year and Roger, the mackerel boatman makes his first trip of the new season. Artist Naomi is sketching the harbour when the lifeboat crew are scrambled to a kayaker is distress.
20:30-21:00 Manchester Street
21:00-22:00 brand new one-off-documentary.Prince Harry and Meghan Markle:Truly,Madly,and Deeply.Amid rumours of an imminent engagement between Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, this new documentary charts the history of their romance and asks who is the woman the fifth in line to the throne wants to marry. The film will tell Meghan’s story, from childhood to her career as an actress, model, successful businesswoman and human rights ambassador. It will examine how Meghan can fit in to the world’s most public family, but also what her arrival will do to the British Monarchy.Amid rumours of an engagement between Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, this documentary charts the history of their romance and focuses on the woman whom the prince wants to marry.*brand new three-part-series Gone to Pot:American Road Trip starts on next Monday (12th,November,2018) at 9:00pm-10:00pm,on next Wednesday (14th,November,2018) at 9:00pm-10:00pm,on next Friday (16th,November,2018) at 9:00pm-10:00pm
22:00-22:30 TV3 News at Ten and Weather
22:30-22:40 Regional News and Weather
22:40-23:40 (Repeat) brand new one-off-documentary.Ross Kemp Behind Bars - Inside Barlinnle.With unprecedented access, Ross Kemp immerses himself in prison life at the sharp end in HMP Barlinnie in Glasgow. The iconic prison has a formidable reputation and has served the city for over 130 years. With privileged and exclusive access to every part of the jail, Ross discovers what it is really like to be an inmate and how prison officers handle the violence, homemade weapons and drugs, which cast a shadow across daily life behind bars. He discovers what it is like to be a lifer, meets a prisoner preparing for freedom and with trepidation, enters the wing of the prison housing sex offenders, the fastest growing group of inmates in the prison system today.
Housing around 1250 prisoners over five Victorian halls, Barlinnie has built a notorious reputation. Falling out with prison officers is not recommended but falling foul of fellow inmates can make your life a living hell. Inmate Hugh reveals that you don’t grass on others, keep your mouth shut and don’t stare at anyone.
Hugh says to Ross: “This yard can kick off in two minutes. It can happen in a heartbeat. Everything can be nice and calm and before you know it [people are] rolling about the ground boxing. People getting slashed and that. People punch you right out of your trainers in here. This is Barlinnie mate.”
Repeat offenders make up a vast percentage of the inmates at Barlinnie. Ross questions what our prisons are for and who they are serving. Are they for punishment? Do they contain dangerous people away from the rest of society? Or are they there to rehabilitate the men and women who live within their walls?
In 2016 violence in prisons across Britain hit record levels. There were over 7000 assaults on staff and over 20,000 prisoner-on-prisoner attacks. Ross meets prison officer Stevie who shows him some of the weapons retrieved from searches carried out inside Barlinnie. Some weapons are made in jail and some are smuggled in using an extreme measure called ‘banking’ where the carrier conceals the weapon in a cavity within their body. Drugs, mobile phones and other contraband can fetch up to five times that of street prices. And Stevie reveals that some inmates intentionally get themselves into prison, in order to make money.
A third of inmates test positive for drugs when leaving jail, with valium, heroin and new psychoactive substances all in demand. Drug abuse is a huge issue in modern prison life and being caught can result in a disciplinary with the Prison Manager who can issue punishments including loss of TV and recreation, contact with family and confiscation of personal money.
Ross sits in on a disciplinary hearing and is surprised at how informal the process is. Once the prisoner admits to his offence of smoking cannabis, the governor reduces his potential penalty to a loss of recreation time and association with other people. Despite previous allegations of brutality which lead to prisoner riots in 1988, Barlinnie’s current officers appear tough but fair.
Sex offenders are the fastest growing group of inmates in our prison service today and E Hall in Barlinnie holds up to 280, four times as many as a decade ago. An increasing number are older in age, as historic abuse claims now go through the courts. The oldest sex offender in Barlinnie is 89 years of age and needs carers to visit him twice a day.
One inmate is serving four years for for his third offence of downloading indecent images of children. He agrees to talk to Ross and in a shocking exchange reveals he believes he will never be cured of his feelings towards children but that he also believes he poses no danger to society. Ross admits to finding the interview extremely difficult and speaks to officer Donna, who works in E wing, to find out how she copes working in such an environment.
Donna admits: “I’ve read their trial judge reports and narratives from the courts. It does affect you obviously because there are things I’ve read that I would rather not have read. You don’t want that imprint in your head. I know there are rapists in here and people who would sexually offend against somebody my age or any other male or female officer. But it’s not something where you think, ‘I come in every day and work with sex offenders who could potentially attack me’. It takes a certain type of person to come in here and work in an environment like this. I suppose you could say that the staff who come in here are brave.”
The loss of their freedom is certainly a punishment for most prisoners but Ross is still unsure if the system is successfully rehabilitating its inmates. He visits Letham Hall, a ‘prison within a prison’, where prisoners from all over Scotland are sent before they are released back into society, after serving lengthy sentences. One inmate at Letham Hall committed murder and was originally sentenced to 12 years in prison but has now served 18 years behind bars. Ross asks him why he has served so much time.
The inmate says: “The biggest part is my own fault and it’s drug tests. I’m an addict. [Before I came to prison] my main thing was dope and I took a couple of eccies [ecstacy] if I was going dancing at the weekend, nothing serious. The main reason why [I] started taking heroin was because they brought mandatory drugs tests in. And cannabis stays in your system for up to 28 days. Heroin is out of your system for three days. It’s hard to wrap your head around a life sentence. Just take heroin and it blanks everything. Blanks your emotions, blanks your thought patterns. You lie in for days, weeks, months. It turns into years.”
Many of the inmates Ross has met are trapped in a cycle of serving time and reoffending. He accompanies one inmate, Robert, as he finishes a seven month sentence. Robert admits he has lost count of how many times he has been incarcerated and that his re-appearances in the prison are like coming through a revolving door. At a cost of £3000 a month, Robert’s latest stretch in Barlinnie has cost the taxpayer a substantial amount and within a few weeks of him leaving, Ross learns that Robert once again has outstanding charges and his freedom is uncertain.
He speaks to the Michael Stoney, the prison Governor for his view on the system and the reason the prison population has doubled in the last 25 years.
Michael says: “We send a lot of people for very short sentences and we effectively can’t do very much. In fact it probably causes more harm. They lose their tenancy, they could lose their job and they lose connection with their family. I would rather it was about changing people [than punishing people]. Certainly we are trying to make prisons work better but we can make it work for those we have here for a bit of time. For those who are just in and out, it’s a pointless exercise.”
Time spent behind bars comes at a cost to both prisoners and our tax paying society. Ross concludes: “There are definitely people here who should remain here because of the threat they pose to others and there are some who are here because of one awful mistake that has changed their lives and other peoples’ lives forever. But the vast majority are repeat offenders trapped in a cycle of substance abuse, violence and criminality and while some of them change there are others that don’t. What I have found from the prisoners here is that the only person who can truly change them, is themselves. The big question has to be, are we as a society, doing enough to allow that change to happen?”.Arriving in handcuffs and processed as a prisoner, Ross Kemp spends ten days inside HMP Barlinnie in Glasgow - one of the oldest and toughest prisons in the world.
23:40-00:45 (Repeat) brand new series.10/12.The Jonathan Ross Show.(Series 12).DAVID WALLIAMS on his OBE and crush on Simon Cowell
JODIE FOSTER on Weinstein and her acting career
DEBBIE HARRY & CHRIS STEIN on their relationship, friendship and working with legends like Iggy Pop and David Bowie
ROISIN CONATY on working in America
PLUS BLONDIE PERFORMS
On this week’s episode of The Jonathan Ross Show - which airs on Saturday night on TV3 - Jonathan is joined by TV judge and author, David Walliams; American actress, Jodie Foster; iconic band, Blondie and stand up and TV star, Roisin Conaty.
Britain’s Got Talent judge, David Walliams, joined the sofa and spoke to Jonathan about being given an OBE.
On receiving the honour from Princess Anne, he said: “I took my mother and I took my two nephews, Eddie and Frankie who are 11 and six. They found it quite boring. Because it’s a prize giving day basically and no one else can hear the conversations going on. It was great. It’s a really nice day out. But they had to sit there for about three hours. It was really lovely meeting all the other people from other walks of life who genuinely deserve it because we are over-rewarded in show business. And so you meet people who are surgeons or people who have done things in charity fields so it’s very inspiring.”
And on how he celebrated, David said: “I went for lunch and I invited you but you couldn’t come. I actually invited Simon Cowell and he said ‘Do you think I want to go and celebrate with you while you get an honour?’ I went, ‘Well you might.’ He was like, ‘You think I would be pleased for you?’ Because he is very competitive and he thinks that he should get a knighthood. He wants to go straight to the knighthood. I mean maybe one day. Who knows how they make these decisions… I suppose if enough people thought he should get one. But it would be annoying if it was Sir Simon Cowell. OBE is nice but if someone is a Sir or a Dame you have to call them that so it’s a bit like it’s heralding their arrival. He would not be shy [about asking people to call him ‘Sir Simon’] so I hope and pray that he never gets an honour,” he laughed.
He later spoke about working with Simon on TV3 favourite, Britain’s Got Talent: “We start as soon as Simon is back from being on a boat with Sinitta and all of his exes… I’ve been on board the boat. It’s rented so it’s not his but it’s nice,” he joked, “I don’t really want to be part of the harem, I’ll be honest with you, I’m worth more than that. I like to make him squirm… It’s hard not to have a bit of a crush on him, he is a star so you get quite excited when he is around. I have a little bit of a crush on him but we do have fun together. Someone said last series, because we’d sit together and have our dinner together, ‘You’re like brothers together.’ It was quite sweet because there is a nice side to him.”
And on David’s mum baking Simon a cake, David explained: “Simon said, ‘Get your mum to bake me a Victoria Sponge cake.’ And then she brought it in and he tasted it and went, ‘Mm, bit dry.’ My mum was really quite crushed. He couldn’t help judging it.”
Speaking about his close relationship with his mum, he said: “I’m very close to my mum… It’s a wonderful thing, at the end of the day - and we were talking about the OBE - the person whose approval you want most is your parents. My dad died about 10 years ago. Everything I do in some way I’m hoping that my mum will like it… I always think my mum is prouder than me of my achievements. When I got the letter about my OBE I didn’t tell her, I just showed her the letter and she went ‘Oh’ and it went on for about two minutes because she couldn’t actually speak.”
David has dedicated his most recent book to his son, Alfred. Speaking about his son he said: “That’s the wonderful thing about writing books, you get to dedicate them to people. When I try and read him my books, he goes, ‘No no no.’ So i just go, ‘Okay fine’ so we read something else. He is into things like The Gruffalo and Dr Seuss. I take it really seriously and I do the voices like I’m doing an audio book. When I read to him I make it like it’s a performance… I do voices.”
Later in the show, David - who swam the channel for charity - admitted he wants to give it another go for Comic Relief when he is 70: “I’d like to be the oldest celebrity to do something like that. I’d like to get to about 70 as an old man and be just an old guy having it a go. I always thought it would be incredible if an older entertainer, unfortunately he has left us now but if Bruce Forsyth or someone like that, had done something like that. It would have been incredible.”
American actress and director, Jodie Foster, joined the show and spoke to Jonathan about her family.
Speaking about embarrassing her teenage sons, Jodie admitted: “I think I can have a little bit of rigour but we have a good time. I like to dress up and do voices and they’re really embarrassed by me… Early on they couldn’t watch [my movies] and they were completely disinterested. They had no interest in watching my movies. Now things have changed a little bit, they’re a bit more into it… Most of the time if they didn’t appreciate the performance, they just leave or look on their phone or go to the bathroom and disappear.”
Jodie spoke about working in the industry as an actor for so long and why she moved into directing: “I love movies but 52 years in the business is a long, long time. I get burned out and it’s a long time to do one thing and I do think directing has become an evolution from acting, it is the best film school in the world, working with amazing directors… I feel like I’m on movie sets and I’m still making films I’m just making them with a different mouthpiece.”
Jodie also spoke about the topic of gender in Hollywood and the recent Harvey Weinstein scandal. Asked if she had ever encountered any of that type of behaviour, she replied: “I think it would be very difficult to find any woman in this audience that hasn’t had some brush with inappropriate sexual stuff happening in the workplace. That is a foundation of our life as women. It is something that we have dealt with our whole lives. It happens in every industry whether it’s the Supreme Court in the United States or the Presidency or the guy next door, men, women, old, young, it is everywhere. And I think this is a moment of consciousness in the world. I think that’s a watershed moment that we should all pay attention to, that there are places and there are people that you can talk to and watching and listening to these amazing narratives by really smart, interesting, accomplished women, not just talking about some pig in the bathrobe but talking about what it is to be raised as a woman and how small brushes that you have with being demoralised and being put upon have such effect and I think it’s a great time for people to become conscious.”
And on how she has seen women’s roles progress in the film industry over her career, she said: “Little by little there are more women technicians, there were more roles for women as I became older but we have a long way to go, especially with women directors. It’s really happening in the indie business which is nice, it’s really happening in television, it’s really happening in Europe but for some reason, mainstream movies there really are so few women directors and that does not seem to be changing fast… I don’t think it’s a plot or a conspiracy people have, I think nobody is paying attention and I think that people don’t realise the kind of profiling and race psychology that they apply to the risks that they take. Movies are big risks. The bigger the movie, the more the financial strata says we want to keep the risk small and for some reason women are risks, I don’t know why that is.”
She later spoke about Silence of the Lambs and why she wasn’t involved in the sequel: “I wasn’t available… It’s a really good film and it came from a great book and when everybody on your film whether it’s the Director of Photography or the Sound Man when you’re inspired by something wonderful I think you do better work than you’ll ever do again and maybe that’s our fear that we’ll never be as good as we were in that movie. I’m really proud of that one.”
On working with Anthony Hopkins in the film, she said: “I guess there was kind of a tension because he was scary. We did a rehearsal together and he was scary and so we never kind of spoke again. As you can see, in almost every scene there was glass between us. He told me at the end of the movie, I said ‘I was a little scared of you that’s why we never spoke’ and he said ‘I was scared of you!’”
Jodie also spoke about her mother and influence from their relationship seen in the episode of Black Mirror that she has directed: “When we talk about my Black Mirror episode that I just directed, it is very much about a mother daughter relationship and that kind of beautiful and troubling symbiotic bond between the two and I feel that has a lot of personal relevance to my own life.”
She continued: “We are very close. She is not really with us in the mind but she has dementia but I think she is very content in her life. She watches a lot of movies and she eats a lot of food. So they are two things that she always loved. I don’t think [she still recognises me] and that’s hard and also really beautiful to be able to know that at the end of your parent's’ life that you are there for them and that you are the last face that they will ever see. I think that is a gift. They gave you this tremendous gift and you get to give that back to them over the course of their life and that’s a wonderful thing too, it’s painful but it’s wonderful.”
She also spoke about whether she might act again: “I’m really excited about acting in my seventies. I think that there are some crack ass roles for women in their seventies and I am going to have all the wrinkles and stuff so I’m going to be the Grandma next door. That’s going to be me.”
From the iconic band, Blondie, Debbie Harry and Chris Stein joined the sofa and spoke to Jonathan about maintaining their friendship and being back together as a band.
On how the pair met, before Blondie was formed, Chris explained: “I went to the first Stilettos show [Debbie’s previous band] and the stage was a board on a pool table or something like that, it was primitive. I was really taken with this one and shortly thereafter I became the first steady musician they had.”
Debbie added: “We became friends, then amorative of each other… We had a good working relationship and it just grew naturally. We shared similar tastes and ideas and we were doing it.”
On how they have maintained a friendship, Chris said, “Yes she is my close buddy… We have a similar connection, mind set or something.”
Debbie added: “I don’t know, it seems easy. It’s always been my opinion that if you spend that much time with a person, you shouldn’t throw that away. It’s like throwing away a piece of your life and we shouldn’t do that. There’s value, there’s disagreements… but somehow the humour always stayed through it all.”
And on being comfortable back with the band after enjoying solo success, Debbie said: “It is very comforting to be with my band and it’s special. I think that when you establish a sound and the combination of elements, it;s sort of a miracle. The same instruments are used all over the place to make the same sounds but yet it comes out sounding unique.”
On touring with Iggy Pop at a period when David Bowie was working with him, Chris said: “It was a really great moment. It was our first big tour, coming out and running around the country with them was just great. These guys were our heroes even then, certainly... Bowie was really in the background which was an awesome thing. He was not pushing his celebrity.”
Debbie added: “They were mentors in a nice way, in a crazy way as well. They were of course genuine real rock and rollers but also showmen and they would just give us tips.”
On David and Iggy expressing an interest in ‘getting to know Debbie better’ when Chris wasn’t around, she joked: “Well, I am writing a book.”
Stand up comic and TV star, Roisin Conaty, joined the sofa and spoke to Jonathan about working in America and things getting lost in translation.
She said: “I am a little bit worried people won’t understand me. I was in a meeting in LA with quite a senior person at a comedy channel and I was just speaking and he kept going to his assistant, ‘What is she saying?’ while I was sitting at the table. And I just got a fit of the giggles and so the meeting was ruined. He also thought I was deaf. ‘What is she saying? What is going on?’” she laughed.
“Water is the one word you have to say in the [American] accent… You have to do it in the voice otherwise you are going to just die of thirst!”.
Jonathan's guests are Jodie Foster, David Walliams, Roisin Conaty and Debbie Harry, who also performs with Blondie.
00:45-03:00 JackpotCasino247
03:00-03:50 (Repeat) The Jeremy Donald Show
03:50-05:05 Nightscreen
05:05-06:00 (Repeat) The Jeremy Donald Show
18:00-18:30 SCO News at Six
22:30-23:05 Scotland Tonight
23:05-00:05 (Repeat) brand new one-off-documentary.Ross Kemp Behind Bars - Inside Barlinnle.With unprecedented access, Ross Kemp immerses himself in prison life at the sharp end in HMP Barlinnie in Glasgow. The iconic prison has a formidable reputation and has served the city for over 130 years. With privileged and exclusive access to every part of the jail, Ross discovers what it is really like to be an inmate and how prison officers handle the violence, homemade weapons and drugs, which cast a shadow across daily life behind bars. He discovers what it is like to be a lifer, meets a prisoner preparing for freedom and with trepidation, enters the wing of the prison housing sex offenders, the fastest growing group of inmates in the prison system today.
Housing around 1250 prisoners over five Victorian halls, Barlinnie has built a notorious reputation. Falling out with prison officers is not recommended but falling foul of fellow inmates can make your life a living hell. Inmate Hugh reveals that you don’t grass on others, keep your mouth shut and don’t stare at anyone.
Hugh says to Ross: “This yard can kick off in two minutes. It can happen in a heartbeat. Everything can be nice and calm and before you know it [people are] rolling about the ground boxing. People getting slashed and that. People punch you right out of your trainers in here. This is Barlinnie mate.”
Repeat offenders make up a vast percentage of the inmates at Barlinnie. Ross questions what our prisons are for and who they are serving. Are they for punishment? Do they contain dangerous people away from the rest of society? Or are they there to rehabilitate the men and women who live within their walls?
In 2016 violence in prisons across Britain hit record levels. There were over 7000 assaults on staff and over 20,000 prisoner-on-prisoner attacks. Ross meets prison officer Stevie who shows him some of the weapons retrieved from searches carried out inside Barlinnie. Some weapons are made in jail and some are smuggled in using an extreme measure called ‘banking’ where the carrier conceals the weapon in a cavity within their body. Drugs, mobile phones and other contraband can fetch up to five times that of street prices. And Stevie reveals that some inmates intentionally get themselves into prison, in order to make money.
A third of inmates test positive for drugs when leaving jail, with valium, heroin and new psychoactive substances all in demand. Drug abuse is a huge issue in modern prison life and being caught can result in a disciplinary with the Prison Manager who can issue punishments including loss of TV and recreation, contact with family and confiscation of personal money.
Ross sits in on a disciplinary hearing and is surprised at how informal the process is. Once the prisoner admits to his offence of smoking cannabis, the governor reduces his potential penalty to a loss of recreation time and association with other people. Despite previous allegations of brutality which lead to prisoner riots in 1988, Barlinnie’s current officers appear tough but fair.
Sex offenders are the fastest growing group of inmates in our prison service today and E Hall in Barlinnie holds up to 280, four times as many as a decade ago. An increasing number are older in age, as historic abuse claims now go through the courts. The oldest sex offender in Barlinnie is 89 years of age and needs carers to visit him twice a day.
One inmate is serving four years for for his third offence of downloading indecent images of children. He agrees to talk to Ross and in a shocking exchange reveals he believes he will never be cured of his feelings towards children but that he also believes he poses no danger to society. Ross admits to finding the interview extremely difficult and speaks to officer Donna, who works in E wing, to find out how she copes working in such an environment.
Donna admits: “I’ve read their trial judge reports and narratives from the courts. It does affect you obviously because there are things I’ve read that I would rather not have read. You don’t want that imprint in your head. I know there are rapists in here and people who would sexually offend against somebody my age or any other male or female officer. But it’s not something where you think, ‘I come in every day and work with sex offenders who could potentially attack me’. It takes a certain type of person to come in here and work in an environment like this. I suppose you could say that the staff who come in here are brave.”
The loss of their freedom is certainly a punishment for most prisoners but Ross is still unsure if the system is successfully rehabilitating its inmates. He visits Letham Hall, a ‘prison within a prison’, where prisoners from all over Scotland are sent before they are released back into society, after serving lengthy sentences. One inmate at Letham Hall committed murder and was originally sentenced to 12 years in prison but has now served 18 years behind bars. Ross asks him why he has served so much time.
The inmate says: “The biggest part is my own fault and it’s drug tests. I’m an addict. [Before I came to prison] my main thing was dope and I took a couple of eccies [ecstacy] if I was going dancing at the weekend, nothing serious. The main reason why [I] started taking heroin was because they brought mandatory drugs tests in. And cannabis stays in your system for up to 28 days. Heroin is out of your system for three days. It’s hard to wrap your head around a life sentence. Just take heroin and it blanks everything. Blanks your emotions, blanks your thought patterns. You lie in for days, weeks, months. It turns into years.”
Many of the inmates Ross has met are trapped in a cycle of serving time and reoffending. He accompanies one inmate, Robert, as he finishes a seven month sentence. Robert admits he has lost count of how many times he has been incarcerated and that his re-appearances in the prison are like coming through a revolving door. At a cost of £3000 a month, Robert’s latest stretch in Barlinnie has cost the taxpayer a substantial amount and within a few weeks of him leaving, Ross learns that Robert once again has outstanding charges and his freedom is uncertain.
He speaks to the Michael Stoney, the prison Governor for his view on the system and the reason the prison population has doubled in the last 25 years.
Michael says: “We send a lot of people for very short sentences and we effectively can’t do very much. In fact it probably causes more harm. They lose their tenancy, they could lose their job and they lose connection with their family. I would rather it was about changing people [than punishing people]. Certainly we are trying to make prisons work better but we can make it work for those we have here for a bit of time. For those who are just in and out, it’s a pointless exercise.”
Time spent behind bars comes at a cost to both prisoners and our tax paying society. Ross concludes: “There are definitely people here who should remain here because of the threat they pose to others and there are some who are here because of one awful mistake that has changed their lives and other peoples’ lives forever. But the vast majority are repeat offenders trapped in a cycle of substance abuse, violence and criminality and while some of them change there are others that don’t. What I have found from the prisoners here is that the only person who can truly change them, is themselves. The big question has to be, are we as a society, doing enough to allow that change to happen?”.Arriving in handcuffs and processed as a prisoner, Ross Kemp spends ten days inside HMP Barlinnie in Glasgow - one of the oldest and toughest prisons in the world.
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00:05-01:05 (Repeat) brand new one-off-documentary.Ross Kemp Behind Bars - Inside Barlinnle.With unprecedented access, Ross Kemp immerses himself in prison life at the sharp end in HMP Barlinnie in Glasgow. The iconic prison has a formidable reputation and has served the city for over 130 years. With privileged and exclusive access to every part of the jail, Ross discovers what it is really like to be an inmate and how prison officers handle the violence, homemade weapons and drugs, which cast a shadow across daily life behind bars. He discovers what it is like to be a lifer, meets a prisoner preparing for freedom and with trepidation, enters the wing of the prison housing sex offenders, the fastest growing group of inmates in the prison system today.
Housing around 1250 prisoners over five Victorian halls, Barlinnie has built a notorious reputation. Falling out with prison officers is not recommended but falling foul of fellow inmates can make your life a living hell. Inmate Hugh reveals that you don’t grass on others, keep your mouth shut and don’t stare at anyone.
Hugh says to Ross: “This yard can kick off in two minutes. It can happen in a heartbeat. Everything can be nice and calm and before you know it [people are] rolling about the ground boxing. People getting slashed and that. People punch you right out of your trainers in here. This is Barlinnie mate.”
Repeat offenders make up a vast percentage of the inmates at Barlinnie. Ross questions what our prisons are for and who they are serving. Are they for punishment? Do they contain dangerous people away from the rest of society? Or are they there to rehabilitate the men and women who live within their walls?
In 2016 violence in prisons across Britain hit record levels. There were over 7000 assaults on staff and over 20,000 prisoner-on-prisoner attacks. Ross meets prison officer Stevie who shows him some of the weapons retrieved from searches carried out inside Barlinnie. Some weapons are made in jail and some are smuggled in using an extreme measure called ‘banking’ where the carrier conceals the weapon in a cavity within their body. Drugs, mobile phones and other contraband can fetch up to five times that of street prices. And Stevie reveals that some inmates intentionally get themselves into prison, in order to make money.
A third of inmates test positive for drugs when leaving jail, with valium, heroin and new psychoactive substances all in demand. Drug abuse is a huge issue in modern prison life and being caught can result in a disciplinary with the Prison Manager who can issue punishments including loss of TV and recreation, contact with family and confiscation of personal money.
Ross sits in on a disciplinary hearing and is surprised at how informal the process is. Once the prisoner admits to his offence of smoking cannabis, the governor reduces his potential penalty to a loss of recreation time and association with other people. Despite previous allegations of brutality which lead to prisoner riots in 1988, Barlinnie’s current officers appear tough but fair.
Sex offenders are the fastest growing group of inmates in our prison service today and E Hall in Barlinnie holds up to 280, four times as many as a decade ago. An increasing number are older in age, as historic abuse claims now go through the courts. The oldest sex offender in Barlinnie is 89 years of age and needs carers to visit him twice a day.
One inmate is serving four years for for his third offence of downloading indecent images of children. He agrees to talk to Ross and in a shocking exchange reveals he believes he will never be cured of his feelings towards children but that he also believes he poses no danger to society. Ross admits to finding the interview extremely difficult and speaks to officer Donna, who works in E wing, to find out how she copes working in such an environment.
Donna admits: “I’ve read their trial judge reports and narratives from the courts. It does affect you obviously because there are things I’ve read that I would rather not have read. You don’t want that imprint in your head. I know there are rapists in here and people who would sexually offend against somebody my age or any other male or female officer. But it’s not something where you think, ‘I come in every day and work with sex offenders who could potentially attack me’. It takes a certain type of person to come in here and work in an environment like this. I suppose you could say that the staff who come in here are brave.”
The loss of their freedom is certainly a punishment for most prisoners but Ross is still unsure if the system is successfully rehabilitating its inmates. He visits Letham Hall, a ‘prison within a prison’, where prisoners from all over Scotland are sent before they are released back into society, after serving lengthy sentences. One inmate at Letham Hall committed murder and was originally sentenced to 12 years in prison but has now served 18 years behind bars. Ross asks him why he has served so much time.
The inmate says: “The biggest part is my own fault and it’s drug tests. I’m an addict. [Before I came to prison] my main thing was dope and I took a couple of eccies [ecstacy] if I was going dancing at the weekend, nothing serious. The main reason why [I] started taking heroin was because they brought mandatory drugs tests in. And cannabis stays in your system for up to 28 days. Heroin is out of your system for three days. It’s hard to wrap your head around a life sentence. Just take heroin and it blanks everything. Blanks your emotions, blanks your thought patterns. You lie in for days, weeks, months. It turns into years.”
Many of the inmates Ross has met are trapped in a cycle of serving time and reoffending. He accompanies one inmate, Robert, as he finishes a seven month sentence. Robert admits he has lost count of how many times he has been incarcerated and that his re-appearances in the prison are like coming through a revolving door. At a cost of £3000 a month, Robert’s latest stretch in Barlinnie has cost the taxpayer a substantial amount and within a few weeks of him leaving, Ross learns that Robert once again has outstanding charges and his freedom is uncertain.
He speaks to the Michael Stoney, the prison Governor for his view on the system and the reason the prison population has doubled in the last 25 years.
Michael says: “We send a lot of people for very short sentences and we effectively can’t do very much. In fact it probably causes more harm. They lose their tenancy, they could lose their job and they lose connection with their family. I would rather it was about changing people [than punishing people]. Certainly we are trying to make prisons work better but we can make it work for those we have here for a bit of time. For those who are just in and out, it’s a pointless exercise.”
Time spent behind bars comes at a cost to both prisoners and our tax paying society. Ross concludes: “There are definitely people here who should remain here because of the threat they pose to others and there are some who are here because of one awful mistake that has changed their lives and other peoples’ lives forever. But the vast majority are repeat offenders trapped in a cycle of substance abuse, violence and criminality and while some of them change there are others that don’t. What I have found from the prisoners here is that the only person who can truly change them, is themselves. The big question has to be, are we as a society, doing enough to allow that change to happen?”.Arriving in handcuffs and processed as a prisoner, Ross Kemp spends ten days inside HMP Barlinnie in Glasgow - one of the oldest and toughest prisons in the world.
01:05-02:10 (Repeat) brand new series.10/12.The Jonathan Ross Show.(Series 12).DAVID WALLIAMS on his OBE and crush on Simon Cowell
JODIE FOSTER on Weinstein and her acting career
DEBBIE HARRY & CHRIS STEIN on their relationship, friendship and working with legends like Iggy Pop and David Bowie
ROISIN CONATY on working in America
PLUS BLONDIE PERFORMS
On this week’s episode of The Jonathan Ross Show - which airs on Saturday night on TV3 - Jonathan is joined by TV judge and author, David Walliams; American actress, Jodie Foster; iconic band, Blondie and stand up and TV star, Roisin Conaty.
Britain’s Got Talent judge, David Walliams, joined the sofa and spoke to Jonathan about being given an OBE.
On receiving the honour from Princess Anne, he said: “I took my mother and I took my two nephews, Eddie and Frankie who are 11 and six. They found it quite boring. Because it’s a prize giving day basically and no one else can hear the conversations going on. It was great. It’s a really nice day out. But they had to sit there for about three hours. It was really lovely meeting all the other people from other walks of life who genuinely deserve it because we are over-rewarded in show business. And so you meet people who are surgeons or people who have done things in charity fields so it’s very inspiring.”
And on how he celebrated, David said: “I went for lunch and I invited you but you couldn’t come. I actually invited Simon Cowell and he said ‘Do you think I want to go and celebrate with you while you get an honour?’ I went, ‘Well you might.’ He was like, ‘You think I would be pleased for you?’ Because he is very competitive and he thinks that he should get a knighthood. He wants to go straight to the knighthood. I mean maybe one day. Who knows how they make these decisions… I suppose if enough people thought he should get one. But it would be annoying if it was Sir Simon Cowell. OBE is nice but if someone is a Sir or a Dame you have to call them that so it’s a bit like it’s heralding their arrival. He would not be shy [about asking people to call him ‘Sir Simon’] so I hope and pray that he never gets an honour,” he laughed.
He later spoke about working with Simon on TV3 favourite, Britain’s Got Talent: “We start as soon as Simon is back from being on a boat with Sinitta and all of his exes… I’ve been on board the boat. It’s rented so it’s not his but it’s nice,” he joked, “I don’t really want to be part of the harem, I’ll be honest with you, I’m worth more than that. I like to make him squirm… It’s hard not to have a bit of a crush on him, he is a star so you get quite excited when he is around. I have a little bit of a crush on him but we do have fun together. Someone said last series, because we’d sit together and have our dinner together, ‘You’re like brothers together.’ It was quite sweet because there is a nice side to him.”
And on David’s mum baking Simon a cake, David explained: “Simon said, ‘Get your mum to bake me a Victoria Sponge cake.’ And then she brought it in and he tasted it and went, ‘Mm, bit dry.’ My mum was really quite crushed. He couldn’t help judging it.”
Speaking about his close relationship with his mum, he said: “I’m very close to my mum… It’s a wonderful thing, at the end of the day - and we were talking about the OBE - the person whose approval you want most is your parents. My dad died about 10 years ago. Everything I do in some way I’m hoping that my mum will like it… I always think my mum is prouder than me of my achievements. When I got the letter about my OBE I didn’t tell her, I just showed her the letter and she went ‘Oh’ and it went on for about two minutes because she couldn’t actually speak.”
David has dedicated his most recent book to his son, Alfred. Speaking about his son he said: “That’s the wonderful thing about writing books, you get to dedicate them to people. When I try and read him my books, he goes, ‘No no no.’ So i just go, ‘Okay fine’ so we read something else. He is into things like The Gruffalo and Dr Seuss. I take it really seriously and I do the voices like I’m doing an audio book. When I read to him I make it like it’s a performance… I do voices.”
Later in the show, David - who swam the channel for charity - admitted he wants to give it another go for Comic Relief when he is 70: “I’d like to be the oldest celebrity to do something like that. I’d like to get to about 70 as an old man and be just an old guy having it a go. I always thought it would be incredible if an older entertainer, unfortunately he has left us now but if Bruce Forsyth or someone like that, had done something like that. It would have been incredible.”
American actress and director, Jodie Foster, joined the show and spoke to Jonathan about her family.
Speaking about embarrassing her teenage sons, Jodie admitted: “I think I can have a little bit of rigour but we have a good time. I like to dress up and do voices and they’re really embarrassed by me… Early on they couldn’t watch [my movies] and they were completely disinterested. They had no interest in watching my movies. Now things have changed a little bit, they’re a bit more into it… Most of the time if they didn’t appreciate the performance, they just leave or look on their phone or go to the bathroom and disappear.”
Jodie spoke about working in the industry as an actor for so long and why she moved into directing: “I love movies but 52 years in the business is a long, long time. I get burned out and it’s a long time to do one thing and I do think directing has become an evolution from acting, it is the best film school in the world, working with amazing directors… I feel like I’m on movie sets and I’m still making films I’m just making them with a different mouthpiece.”
Jodie also spoke about the topic of gender in Hollywood and the recent Harvey Weinstein scandal. Asked if she had ever encountered any of that type of behaviour, she replied: “I think it would be very difficult to find any woman in this audience that hasn’t had some brush with inappropriate sexual stuff happening in the workplace. That is a foundation of our life as women. It is something that we have dealt with our whole lives. It happens in every industry whether it’s the Supreme Court in the United States or the Presidency or the guy next door, men, women, old, young, it is everywhere. And I think this is a moment of consciousness in the world. I think that’s a watershed moment that we should all pay attention to, that there are places and there are people that you can talk to and watching and listening to these amazing narratives by really smart, interesting, accomplished women, not just talking about some pig in the bathrobe but talking about what it is to be raised as a woman and how small brushes that you have with being demoralised and being put upon have such effect and I think it’s a great time for people to become conscious.”
And on how she has seen women’s roles progress in the film industry over her career, she said: “Little by little there are more women technicians, there were more roles for women as I became older but we have a long way to go, especially with women directors. It’s really happening in the indie business which is nice, it’s really happening in television, it’s really happening in Europe but for some reason, mainstream movies there really are so few women directors and that does not seem to be changing fast… I don’t think it’s a plot or a conspiracy people have, I think nobody is paying attention and I think that people don’t realise the kind of profiling and race psychology that they apply to the risks that they take. Movies are big risks. The bigger the movie, the more the financial strata says we want to keep the risk small and for some reason women are risks, I don’t know why that is.”
She later spoke about Silence of the Lambs and why she wasn’t involved in the sequel: “I wasn’t available… It’s a really good film and it came from a great book and when everybody on your film whether it’s the Director of Photography or the Sound Man when you’re inspired by something wonderful I think you do better work than you’ll ever do again and maybe that’s our fear that we’ll never be as good as we were in that movie. I’m really proud of that one.”
On working with Anthony Hopkins in the film, she said: “I guess there was kind of a tension because he was scary. We did a rehearsal together and he was scary and so we never kind of spoke again. As you can see, in almost every scene there was glass between us. He told me at the end of the movie, I said ‘I was a little scared of you that’s why we never spoke’ and he said ‘I was scared of you!’”
Jodie also spoke about her mother and influence from their relationship seen in the episode of Black Mirror that she has directed: “When we talk about my Black Mirror episode that I just directed, it is very much about a mother daughter relationship and that kind of beautiful and troubling symbiotic bond between the two and I feel that has a lot of personal relevance to my own life.”
She continued: “We are very close. She is not really with us in the mind but she has dementia but I think she is very content in her life. She watches a lot of movies and she eats a lot of food. So they are two things that she always loved. I don’t think [she still recognises me] and that’s hard and also really beautiful to be able to know that at the end of your parent's’ life that you are there for them and that you are the last face that they will ever see. I think that is a gift. They gave you this tremendous gift and you get to give that back to them over the course of their life and that’s a wonderful thing too, it’s painful but it’s wonderful.”
She also spoke about whether she might act again: “I’m really excited about acting in my seventies. I think that there are some crack ass roles for women in their seventies and I am going to have all the wrinkles and stuff so I’m going to be the Grandma next door. That’s going to be me.”
From the iconic band, Blondie, Debbie Harry and Chris Stein joined the sofa and spoke to Jonathan about maintaining their friendship and being back together as a band.
On how the pair met, before Blondie was formed, Chris explained: “I went to the first Stilettos show [Debbie’s previous band] and the stage was a board on a pool table or something like that, it was primitive. I was really taken with this one and shortly thereafter I became the first steady musician they had.”
Debbie added: “We became friends, then amorative of each other… We had a good working relationship and it just grew naturally. We shared similar tastes and ideas and we were doing it.”
On how they have maintained a friendship, Chris said, “Yes she is my close buddy… We have a similar connection, mind set or something.”
Debbie added: “I don’t know, it seems easy. It’s always been my opinion that if you spend that much time with a person, you shouldn’t throw that away. It’s like throwing away a piece of your life and we shouldn’t do that. There’s value, there’s disagreements… but somehow the humour always stayed through it all.”
And on being comfortable back with the band after enjoying solo success, Debbie said: “It is very comforting to be with my band and it’s special. I think that when you establish a sound and the combination of elements, it;s sort of a miracle. The same instruments are used all over the place to make the same sounds but yet it comes out sounding unique.”
On touring with Iggy Pop at a period when David Bowie was working with him, Chris said: “It was a really great moment. It was our first big tour, coming out and running around the country with them was just great. These guys were our heroes even then, certainly... Bowie was really in the background which was an awesome thing. He was not pushing his celebrity.”
Debbie added: “They were mentors in a nice way, in a crazy way as well. They were of course genuine real rock and rollers but also showmen and they would just give us tips.”
On David and Iggy expressing an interest in ‘getting to know Debbie better’ when Chris wasn’t around, she joked: “Well, I am writing a book.”
Stand up comic and TV star, Roisin Conaty, joined the sofa and spoke to Jonathan about working in America and things getting lost in translation.
She said: “I am a little bit worried people won’t understand me. I was in a meeting in LA with quite a senior person at a comedy channel and I was just speaking and he kept going to his assistant, ‘What is she saying?’ while I was sitting at the table. And I just got a fit of the giggles and so the meeting was ruined. He also thought I was deaf. ‘What is she saying? What is going on?’” she laughed.
“Water is the one word you have to say in the [American] accent… You have to do it in the voice otherwise you are going to just die of thirst!”.
Jonathan's guests are Jodie Foster, David Walliams, Roisin Conaty and Debbie Harry, who also performs with Blondie.
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